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Old 04-30-2009, 03:39 PM
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Ideas can't be copyrighted. However, sharp lawyers have been able to make life miserable for people whose works closely mimic protected photographs. Everytime I visited the Snake River overlook just east of the Grand Tetons there have been a gaggle of photographers with Minor White and Ansel Adams prints in mind, trying to take a similar shot. Few, if any, give those great photographers any competition at all. Duping an Ansel Adams print and conspicuously trying to peddle it is different.
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Old 04-30-2009, 08:25 PM
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When I am at a location where I have seen others shoot it before, I purposely try to shoot from another vantage point. Not that I could give Minor White, Ansel Adams, or Jim Jones a run for their money but I try to do a different perspective anyway.

Having said that -- there is a shot in my gallery of Mabry Mill in Southwest Virginia. This place has been shot so many times by so many people that there probably isn't a fresh perspective.

What's the point? It all comes down to what Todd said - ETHICS. You simply do what is right. You don't try to make your living off someone elses back.
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Old 04-30-2009, 09:17 PM
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You simply do what is right. You don't try to make your living off someone elses back.
Well said.
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Old 04-30-2009, 11:34 PM
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Agreed!
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Old 05-07-2009, 12:34 AM
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Ok, Here is a twist.

As I always get phone calls from other photog's on "how to do this" "why this".... or any other advise on photgraphy,
Well today, I received a phone call from a friend asking me how I would handle this.

My friend (lets call him "Sam" ), being a pretty good photographer recieved an email saying basiclly, NOT QUOTING!

I am a painter I like your photography esp the XXXX photograph. I had painted your photograph and it is demand and can be marketed! Plus it is showing in an art gallery to be sold. and I wanted your permission before it got sold and pay you for the use of the photograph.

Well. according to the guys website, he sells his paintings for $5000-7000! And he is asking for permission AFTER THE FACT!!!!

Well from my knowledge about FINE art painters, if your selling your painting for those bucks, your not screwing around, you KNOW what your doing. BTW, the painter told "Sam", what he does is that he PRINTS out the photograph then Paints over the photograph.

So "Sam" is REALLY easy going and does not sell his stuff on a regular basis or anything and But he was REALLY offended by this.

"Sam" wanted to know what fee I would charge for the use of it. Sam said he didnt want to "stir the pot" but wanted what is FAIR.

After doing some research and thinking about it. I told "Sam" THIS is what I would do in the situation, FIRST, I will allow the sale of the said painting with a 10% commission of the sales of that painting. NO other reprints may be allowed. Another words NO "Giclée" or other copies, Digtial or otherwise of said painting.

....Should you be interested in using my any other of my photogrpahs BEFORE you paint it, please feel free to ask.

I have a STRONG issue with this person, because I am sure he has painted others and did the same to other people and they said sure that cool.

Its just not right.
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Old 05-07-2009, 03:11 AM
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If you paint over a photo that you didn't even take, how are you considered good enough as an artist to get that kind of money?!?!?!? I mean, shouldn't you be able to paint from seeing if you're that good? Heck, I'll try painting over one of my photos and see if I can make that much money.
Sorry, no help, really. Just indignation. I'd say he should ask for 25% of the sale price and named credit on it. I'd also ask for proof of the gallery's existence because somehow it sounds like a variation on those schemes where they send you too much money for something and ask for the change. The initial check ends up being fake. Who's to say the e-mail was really from that artist?
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Old 05-12-2009, 09:46 AM
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Wait, the painter just paints right on top of the original photograph? Right on the photo paper? and then charges 5000 dollars for it? Galleries are hanging these "paintings"? Collectors are buying them? Something about this story doesn't sound right. The people who are really geting screwewd are the art collectors paying 5000 dollars for these things! After this guy/girl masters this technique they should try paint by numbers.
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. . . After this guy/girl masters this technique they should try paint by numbers.
Good one!
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Old 05-12-2009, 10:32 PM
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Got a come back for you Todd. He pays up or you flood the market with prints comparable to his by using PS with the photo he used Bet he will think about doing anything like that real soon. Call his A** out
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Old 05-13-2009, 12:54 AM
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How about you get a macro lens and go over to his booth and start taking photos of his work and printing them for a dollar a piece at your booth.
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